Lieberman Looks Back To The Future

4 comments June 30th, 2008at 09:05am Posted by Eli

Shorter Joe Lieberman:

When the terrorists hit us in 2009, we need to have a president who is willing to seize unprecedented unconstitutional powers for his own and his party’s gain, and John McCain is that man.

That is what “keeping us safe” has become code for, isn’t it?

Entry Filed under: Constitution,Elections,Lieberman,McCain,Politics,Republicans,Terrorism,Wankers


  • 1. Cujo359  |  June 30th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    That’s what I’ve always thought it meant, but then I’m not always good at parsing the words of lying opportunists.

    On a somewhat related note, in the comments of your article at FDL last weekend, did you ever figure out why cboldt was saying what he was about saying “cruel” instead of “torture”? It was certainly a mystery, and he didn’t seem to be interested in explaining himself. Normally I’d just dismiss him as a crank, but he seems to have a good understanding of how Congress works procedurally.

  • 2. Eli  |  July 1st, 2008 at 12:03 am

    Best I could tell, he was saying that legally speaking, “torture” is a lot harder to prove than “cruel and inhuman”, and that it’s a lot easier for the Bushies to say “we do not torture” than “we do not perform cruel and inhuman treatment”.

    I don’t entirely buy it, especially from a messaging perspective as opposed to a legal perspective (and that’s what we do, after all), but that’s what he’s insisting.

  • 3. Cujo359  |  July 1st, 2008 at 12:57 am

    Yes, it seems to me that either term is vulnerable to the same sort of dodge – define the term to be something we’re not doing, and then insist we’re not doing that. “Cruel and inhuman” means we don’t dip our victims in chocolate or other edible substances. We’d never do such a thing..

    Anyway, I thought that was what he was insisting. If he’d been able to explain a little beyond hand-waving, he might have been more convincing.

  • 4. Eli  |  July 1st, 2008 at 8:22 am

    Agreed. “You fools!” is just not very informative. I think we only got as far as we did because I teased it out of him. But now he thinks “You fools!” is a brilliant way to get his message across…

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