Religious Right Tacking Left?

2 comments May 8th, 2009at 07:20am Posted by Eli

Wow, maybe the religious right is reading the New Testament after all:

The Southern Baptist Convention, the dominant religious voice of the South, has finally weighed in on the issue of waterboarding and other forms of torture.

Under no circumstances should they be permitted in this country.


There is no room for torture as part of the United States’ intelligence-gathering process, Richard Land said today. He also said he believes the practice known as “waterboarding” is torture and, as such, is unethical.

Land, president of the SBC’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, said there is no circumstance in which torture should be permissible in interrogations by U.S. officials, even if the authorities believe a prisoner has information that might involve national security.

“I don’t agree with the belief that we should use any means necessary to extract information,” said Land. “I believe there are absolutes. There are things we must never do under any circumstances.

“For me the ultimate test is: Could I, in good conscience, do whatever I am authorizing or condoning others to do? If not, then I must oppose the action. If I could not waterboard someone—and I couldn’t—then I must oppose its practice.”


“There are some things you should never do to another human being, no matter how horrific the things they have done. If you do so, you demean yourself to their level,” he said.

“Civilized countries should err on the side of caution. It does cost us something to play by different rules than our enemies, but it would cost us far more if we played by their rules,” Land concluded.

Torture is simply not Christian.  I don’t see how that’s even subject to debate, yet a supposedly devout Christian president gleefully indulged in it and then lied about it (also not Christian, BTW – I think there’s a Commandment or something), and millions of supposedly devout Christian Americans had no problem with it at all.

The religious right may even be coming around on Teh Scary Ghey:

In a move that will surprise gay activists and liberals, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family, a top religious right groups, tells me that his organization has no problem with GOP Senator Jeff Sessions’ claim today that he’s open to a Supreme Court nominee with “gay tendencies.”

The spokesperson confirms the group won’t oppose a gay SCOTUS nominee over sexual orientation.

“We agree with Senator Sessions,” Bruce Hausknecht, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family, which is headed by James Dobson, told me a few minutes ago. “The issue is not their sexual orientation. It’s whether they are a good judge or not.”

Their sexual orientation “should never come up,” he continued. “It’s not even pertinent to the equation.”

(“Gay tendencies”???  WTF is that supposed to mean?)  John Aravosis doesn’t believe them, but points out that even if it is complete insincere bullshit, it’s still a pretty huge deal that Focus on the Family feels the need to pretend to be tolerant.

If the Christian right decides to start acting more, well, Christian, that can only be a good thing for everyone.  Except for the hate-based extreme right wing of the GOP, and marginalizing them would actually be very healthy  for the GOP as a whole.

Entry Filed under: Judiciary,Religion,Republicans,Teh Gay,Torture


  • 1. Cujo359  |  May 8th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Not too long ago, the Pew Center discovered that the more people go to church, the more sanguine they are about torture. Go figure.

  • 2. Eli  |  May 8th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Ugh. It shouldn’t be that way, but the general trend is Ultra Christian = Republican = Pro-Torture.

    It still amazes me that Christians can be drawn to a party that pretty much stands for the exact opposite of everything Jesus stood for. No wonder they’re always so angry, with that kind of cognitive dissonance gnawing away at them.

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